"Pre-Tribulation Rapture" -tf

This study is for bible-believers and soldiers in the Lord. It will have little impact on babies, liberals, and optimists. "Pre-Tribulation" resurrection ("the rapture" or "secret rapture", as it is called) is not in the bible in any terms. This Satanic deception never existed until a few years ago and no church but "Laodicea" would have bought into it.

2nd Thessalonians 2:1-10 " Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: even him, whose coming isF afterE the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. . . ." (The second most important word in this text is the word "after".)

(You know who "the saints" are, but you refuse to believe the term INCLUDES YOU!)

F Revelation 13:5-7 ". . . and power was given unto him . . . to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. . . ."

v. 8 "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb. . . ."

[Why is this exception given at all if those persons who ARE the exception do NOT "dwell upon the earth"? Are you trying to tell yourself that this verse describes born again Christians IN HEAVEN, not taking "the mark of the beast"?]

v. 9 "If any man have an ear, let him hear." (This was given so that you would pay attention, if you are not reprobate!)

(The "pastors" of the incorporated "churches" do not have ears, and they have thoroughly deceived their "flocks"!)

F Matthew 24:29-31 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days . . . they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (What part of "after" do you not get?)

(The coming of the Lord is not "pre" tribulation, and it is not "secret.")

Luke 3:4-7 ". . . And all flesh shall see the salvation of God." (a secret rapture?)

Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him. . . ."

1st Thessalonians 4:13-18 ". . . with the trump of God . . . the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive. . . ."

(Who is "we" here? Do you think Paul does not consider himself part of the church?)

1st Corinthians 15:51-52 ". . . at the last trump . . . the dead shall be raised . . . and we shall be changed." (Who is "we"?)

[The dead in Christ are raised and the remnant in Christ still living are changed, at the same time, at the last trump.]

John 6:39-40,44,54 ". . . and I will raise him up at the last day." [four times] (Could that be said any more clearly?)

(There are only two resurrections, and only ONE "resurrection" unto life, at the end of the world: the "second" is unto the lake of fire! --Rev. 20)

Acts 24:14-16 ". . . there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust."

["Pre-Tribbers" have to INVENT several (at least two, sometimes three and four) resurrections in Christ. It goes like this:]

1) "the church" [Christ comes in the clouds but stays in the clouds in the "secret rapture" for the church only, "before anything bad happens."] (NONE of this slop is in the bible!)

2) "old testament saints" (no such term in the bible) [includes Abraham, Sarah, David, Noah, Ezekiel, Jacob, etc.]

("Pre-Tribbers" think they should go before these UNIMPORTANT people.)

3) "tribulation saints" [They INVENTED this term to make "saints" NOT include "the church." (How sick!)]

F (1st Corinthians 12:13 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.")

(What part of "one" do you not understand?)

Revelation 7:13-14 "These are they which came out of great tribulation" (You don't know who "they" are?)

[Deceived and carnal "Christians" think these "saints" in the tribulation could not possibly refer to them (even though millions of Christians throughout the world have received horrible persecution) so they wrest scripture "unto their own destruction" (2nd Peter 3:16) to justify IGNORING certain embarrassing verses, the whole point of which was to WARN THEM so that, being encouraged to endure, they would not get faint hearted and quit!]

1st Peter 4:12-13 "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you. . . ." (Who is "you" here?)

John 16:33 "In the world ye shall have tribulation. . . " (Who is the Lord talking to when he says "ye"?)

1st Thessalonians 3:1-5 ". . . no man should be moved by these afflictions: for yourselves know that we are appointed thereunto. For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation. . . ."

Luke 21:16-19 "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. . . .In your patience possess ye your souls."

(You need "patience" when something will take LONGER than you hoped!)

Matthew 25:1-13 "They that were foolish . . . took no oil with them. . . ." (They thought he was coming sooner!)

(again) 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 ". . . that day [the day of the lord] shall not come, except there come a falling away first. . . ."

Matthew 24:42-44 "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (LATER than YOU thought, not earlier than we thought!)

Isaiah 40:31 ". . . they that wait upon the Lord shall . . . mount up with wings as eagles. . . ." (The key word is "wait.")

(It's no loss to me at all if the Lord should show up EARLIER than I expect him: in either case I’ll be waiting for him.)

Matthew 24:13 ". . . he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (whether dead or alive)

1st Corinthians 4:9-14 ". . . being persecuted, we suffer it . . . I warn you." (You NEED to be warned!)

Revelation 14:9-12 ". . . here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." (BOTH!)

12:17 "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

(They’re still on earth AND still keeping the commandments, whether you like it or not.)

[Phoney "Christians" boast that this verse is "proof" they aren't included, because they ". . . don't keep the commandments!"]

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." (You have been deceived!)

Matthew 5:19 "Whosoever . . . shall break one of these least commandments . . . shall be called the least. . . "

Revelation 12:11 ". . . and they loved not their lives unto the death." (Maybe what you have is a "feel good" religion.)

(Laodicean "Christians" don't expect tribulation because they wouldn't dream of having to be faithful unto death!)

Revelation 2:10 ". . . ye shall have tribulation . . . be thou faithful unto death. . . ." (Who's a liar here?)

(Romans 3:4 ". . . let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written. . . .")

"You’re trying to take away my blessed hope!"

John 17:15 "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

(12:25 "He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.")

Matthew 10:24 "The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord."

John 12:26-27 "If any man serve me, let him follow me . . . and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour. . . ?"

[Carnal Christians think their life is important, but the Lord is glorified rather by our DEATH.]

Psalm 116:15 "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints."

John 21:18-19 "This spake he, signifying by what death [Peter] should glorify God."

QUESTION: "Would a loving God let his church suffer?"

ANSWER: YES, exactly as it has suffered for two thousand years the most unimaginable cruelty!

(Are you ignorant of history, or do you personally just think "you’re special"?)

Philippians 1:27-30 "For unto you it is given . . . not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake. . . ."

Romans 8:16-17 ". . . we are . . . joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him. . . ."

2nd Timothy 2:9-12 ". . . if we suffer, we shall also reign with him. . . ."

2nd Thessalonians 1:4-6 ". . . we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer. . . ."

F 1st Corinthians 15:21-23 "But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." (That is, NOT at a secret rapture before he comes, but AT HIS COMING!

(Again): 1st Corinthians 15:51-52 ". . . at the last trump . . . the dead shall be raised . . . and we shall be changed."

(QUESTION: Was there a trumpet at the last funeral you attended?) (ANSWER: No, because the guy is still dead!)

Acts 2:29-34 ". . . let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried . . . [and] is not ascended into the heavens. . . ." (Lots of "Christians" think they're more important than king David.)

(No, Virginia, the "dear departed" has not "gone to be with the Lord.")

Psalm 104:29 ". . . thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust."

146:3-4 ". . . in that very day his thoughts perish." (The next thing he knows is a resurrection, but it hasn’t come yet!)

Revelation 11:15 "And the seventh [and last] angel sounded. . . ." (That is, "the last trump." See: Revelation 8:6 )

v. 15 "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord . . . and he shall reign for ever and ever."

[Presently, the world belongs to Satan, as anybody who sees, or believes the bible, already knew. (See: Matthew 4:8-9)]

v. 17 ". . . thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned."

F v. 18 ". . . the nations were angry . . ." ("United Nations", tri-lateralists, "Council on Foreign Relations", "global elite")

[This one verse has it all:]

"thy wrath is come . . ." (The Lord's wrath is not against his people! It is directed against his enemies.)

Nahum 1:2,5,6 ". . . the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries. . . . Who can stand before his indignation?"

Isaiah 26:20-21 "Come, my people . . . hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast."

"the time of the dead, that they should be judged . . ." (That's resurrection!)

(Romans 14:9-12 ". . . dead and living . . . we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.")

"that thou shouldest give reward . . ."

(Matthew 16:27 "For the Son of man shall come . . . and then he shall reward every man. . . ."

"unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints . . ." (of that one body, for the same purpose, at the same time.)

1st Corinthians 12:13 "one body" (There's only one body belonging to the Lord, and only one resurrection.)

Ephesians 3:6 "Gentiles" become "fellowheirs, and of the same body. . . ." (There are NOT TWO bodies!)

2:12-15 ". . . Christ Jesus . . . who hath made both one. . . ." (Not two, ONE! See: Romans 11)

"and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." (How you "feel" about this depends on whose side you're on.)

ALLEGORIES (or "Pictures") OF THE RESURRECTION (Pointing to Enoch as "a picture of the church" is pure desperation.)

(1) The Plagues Sent Against Egypt While Israel Was Still in Egypt. (The Lord's plagues were directed against the Egyptians, not Israel, and Israel wasn't taken out to the promised land until AFTER those plagues.) (Water turned to blood, locusts, hail & fire, darkness, death)

Exodus 7:1-5 "And the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord, when I stretch forth mine hand upon Egypt, and bring out the children of Israel from among them."

8:20-23 "And I will put a division between my people and thy people: to morrow shall this sign be."

9:1-6 "And . . . all the cattle of Egypt died: but of the cattle of the children of Israel died not one."

vs. 11-14 "For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people. . . ."

(So now, who belongs to Pharaoh and who belongs to the Lord Jesus?)

vs. 22-26 "So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous. . . . Only in the land of Goshen, where the children of Israel were, was there no hail."

(Psalm 105:32 "He gave them hail for rain, and flaming fire in their land.")

Revelation 8:6-7 "The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up."

[The Lord’s wrath is directed against Satan’s kingdom (this world) and He takes a third of it (as Satan did to Him.)

10:21-23 "And the Lord said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt . . . but all the children of Israel had light in their dwellings."

(2) The Lord with Moses at Mount Horeb (This is the first time the word "trumpet" is in the bible.)

Exodus 19:10-13 ". . . the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people. . . ." (There's no "secret" about this!)

". . . when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up. . . ." (and not a second sooner!)

(3) The Fall of Jericho (A perfect biblical "PICTURE")

Joshua 5:13-15 [Notice that "the Lord himself" shows up in person.] (See Hebrews 2:9-10 for "Captain.")

1st Thessalonians 4:16-17 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout . . . and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which . . . remain shall be caught up together with them . . ."

Joshua 6:3-5 "the sound of the trumpet . . . the people shall shout with a great shout . . . the people shall ascend up. . . ."

[Now, the people don't go up on just any trump, but at the last, or seventh trump!]

vs. 15-16 ". . . on the seventh day . . . at the seventh time . . . with the trumpets . . . the people went up . . . ."

v. 20 "shouted . . . trumpets . . . trumpet . . . shouted with a great shout . . . the people went up. . . ."

(again) 1st Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend . . . with a shout. . . ."

Jeremiah 25:30 "Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The Lord shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth."

Psalm 47:5 "God is gone up with a shout, the Lord with the sound of a trumpet."

Isaiah 42:13 "The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies."

Joel 3:9-16 "The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel."

Isaiah 63:1-6 "I have trodden the winepress alone . . . for I will . . . trample them in my fury. . . . For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

v. 21 "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city . . ." (Remember: Revelation 11:15,18)

". . . with the edge of the sword." (See: Deuteronomy 32:41-42)

Isaiah 66:10-16 [deliverance for one group, destruction for the other] (It is the "day of the Lord.")

[It is pure ignorance in this context to go around quoting ". . . God hath not appointed us to wrath. . . ." from 1st Thessalonians 5:9 (ignoring v. 10) Of course Christians are not appointed unto God's wrath. (Job 21:30; Isaiah 13:9,13) The "great tribulation" is NOT the "day of the Lord's anger." It is 3˝ YEARS of Satan's wrath against true Christians who will not worship him! It is Satan who is angry. (The Lord Jesus contains his fury against his enemies until he returns.)

Revelation 12:12 "Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea: for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he that but a short time." [which time is "shortened" by the Lord "for the elect's sake".]

Matthew 24:22 "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." (That is, for YOUR sake, unless you want to argue that you're not among "the elect.")

2nd Peter 3:10-12 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. . . ."

[Laodicean deceivers quote only the first part of this verse, pointing out, to convince the suckers, that since "a thief comes quietly and unnoticed," so will the Lord's coming be; but the second half of the verse destroys that assumption. The Lord's coming is completely UNEXPECTED by the world, however there is NO WAY to describe the heavens passing away "with a great noise" and the elements melting "with fervent heat" as being a "SECRET".]

1st Thessalonians 5:4 "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."

(Is your "blessed hope" that the Lord will come for you, or is it that you will have it easy until he comes?)

F Titus 2:13 The "blessed hope": "resurrection" at "the glorious appearing". (There’s nothing "secret" or "pre-trib" here!)

See: v. 14 ". . . and purify unto himself a peculiar people. . . ." ("Laodiceans" always try to ignore this word, "purify.")

(Daniel 12:10 "Many shall be purified . . . and tried . . . the wise shall understand.") (Do you understand?)

1st Peter 1:3-11 "That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ. . . ."

Revelation 3:14,18 "And unto . . . the church of the Laodiceans . . . I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire. . . ."

-- Lord, open their eyes.